Episode 20

Os Guinness

The Pastor and Writer as Subversive

Os Guinness is one of the world's foremost Christian thinkers. His books such as The Call, have already become modern Christian classics. Os joins me to talk about the lost art of persuasion and how pastors and writers must learn to be subversive.
Os Guinness is one of the world's foremost Christian thinkers. His books such as The Call, have already become modern Christian classics. Os joins me to talk about the lost art of persuasion and how pastors and writers must learn to be subversive.
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Show Notes:20. Os Guinness — The Pastor and Writer as Subversive

Os Guinness is one of the world’s foremost Christian thinkers. His books such as The Call, have already become modern Christian classics. Os joins me to talk about the lost art of persuasion and how pastors and writers must learn to be subversive.


“In short, many of us today lack a vital part of a way of communicating that is prominent in the Gospels and throughout the Scriptures, but largely absent in the church today—persuasion, the art of speaking to people who, for whatever reason, are indifferent or resistant to what we have to say. They simply do not agree with us and are not open to what we have to say.” — Os Guinness, Fool’s Talk

“Our modern lust for technique comes from the fact that we live in the great how-to age. The age of technology and technique is the age of endless methods, formulas, recipes, seminars, how-to manuals, twelve step programs and the constant lure of efficiency. Our temptation then is to pursue the admirable goal of becoming more persuasive and to fall into a common trap: becoming preoccupied with technique, as if persuasion could be learned by observing the process carefully, reducing it to reason, reversing it and then repeating it ourselves.” — Os Guinness, Fool’s Talk

  • In one month, I submit the draft of my new book, A More Physical Faith, to the publisher, NavPress. My first notes for this book go back to 2024. I share more personally in this book than anything I’ve ever written. Some people write and publish faster, but books usually represent at least 2 to 3 years of work for me. Just wanted to share this milestone. The book won’t be out until next year.
  • Joyeuse Fête des Mères à la meilleure maman qui soit. On t'aime et on a de la chance de t'avoir. Partons en France !
  • Happy early birthday to myself.
  • Hard to beat.
  • There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
  • Back from France.
  • Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
In one month, I submit the draft of my new book, A More Physical Faith, to the publisher, NavPress. My first notes for this book go back to 2024. I share more personally in this book than anything I’ve ever written. Some people write and publish faster, but books usually represent at least 2 to 3 years of work for me. Just wanted to share this milestone. The book won’t be out until next year.
In one month, I submit the draft of my new book, A More Physical Faith, to the publisher, NavPress. My first notes for this book go back to 2024. I share more personally in this book than anything I’ve ever written. Some people write and publish faster, but books usually represent at least 2 to 3 years of work for me. Just wanted to share this milestone. The book won’t be out until next year.
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Joyeuse Fête des Mères à la meilleure maman qui soit. On t'aime et on a de la chance de t'avoir. Partons en France !
Joyeuse Fête des Mères à la meilleure maman qui soit. On t'aime et on a de la chance de t'avoir. Partons en France !
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Happy early birthday to myself.
Happy early birthday to myself.
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Hard to beat.
Hard to beat.
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There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
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Back from France.
Back from France.
Back from France.
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Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie.

For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books.

There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost.

She was the best.
Tonight we lost my bird dog, Millie. For thirteen years I followed her through woods and fields chasing pheasant and quail. She was there to welcome both of our kids home from the hospital. When I set up my writing LLC, I named it A Desk and A Dog because my dream was to write with her lying on the chair in my office. She did just that for years, resting beside me as I worked and helping me write several books. There’s a reason so many country songs mention the bird dog they lost. She was the best.
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