Episode 20

Os Guinness

The Pastor and Writer as Subversive

Os Guinness is one of the world's foremost Christian thinkers. His books such as The Call, have already become modern Christian classics. Os joins me to talk about the lost art of persuasion and how pastors and writers must learn to be subversive.
Os Guinness is one of the world's foremost Christian thinkers. His books such as The Call, have already become modern Christian classics. Os joins me to talk about the lost art of persuasion and how pastors and writers must learn to be subversive.
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Show Notes:20. Os Guinness — The Pastor and Writer as Subversive

Os Guinness is one of the world’s foremost Christian thinkers. His books such as The Call, have already become modern Christian classics. Os joins me to talk about the lost art of persuasion and how pastors and writers must learn to be subversive.


“In short, many of us today lack a vital part of a way of communicating that is prominent in the Gospels and throughout the Scriptures, but largely absent in the church today—persuasion, the art of speaking to people who, for whatever reason, are indifferent or resistant to what we have to say. They simply do not agree with us and are not open to what we have to say.” — Os Guinness, Fool’s Talk

“Our modern lust for technique comes from the fact that we live in the great how-to age. The age of technology and technique is the age of endless methods, formulas, recipes, seminars, how-to manuals, twelve step programs and the constant lure of efficiency. Our temptation then is to pursue the admirable goal of becoming more persuasive and to fall into a common trap: becoming preoccupied with technique, as if persuasion could be learned by observing the process carefully, reducing it to reason, reversing it and then repeating it ourselves.” — Os Guinness, Fool’s Talk

  • There have been intense negotiations in my house about getting a new dog. I have been arguing that we wait till summer… so we got one in last week. Charlotte got Lucy for her seventh birthday this weekend.
  • Couldn’t help digging through the folder of the letters with Ernest Hemingway. One that he wrote from Paris in the 20s and the other from Cuba in the 50s. Both are the original copies.
  • Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
  • Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
  • Survival firestarter kit received for Christmas. He’s already got it down. Nice to know we are in good hands.
  • Another Christmas recital in the books. These two worked incredibly hard and gave amazing performances.
  • Another great day on the White river. If you’re crazy enough to fish in the cold, you’ve got the whole thing to yourself.
  • Big thanks to @rwakie for another great day of shooting ducks (teals, mallards, and a Gadwall.) We saw a lot, shot a lot, and managed to hit some. They are beautiful birds.
  • It was cold. It we shot birds. Great fun for a another South Dakota pheasant hunt, this one with my brother and dad. Throw in some nice points and retrieves from Millie and it was a great weekend.
There have been intense negotiations in my house about getting a new dog. I have been arguing that we wait till summer… so we got one in last week. Charlotte got Lucy for her seventh birthday this weekend.
There have been intense negotiations in my house about getting a new dog. I have been arguing that we wait till summer… so we got one in last week. Charlotte got Lucy for her seventh birthday this weekend.
There have been intense negotiations in my house about getting a new dog. I have been arguing that we wait till summer… so we got one in last week. Charlotte got Lucy for her seventh birthday this weekend.
There have been intense negotiations in my house about getting a new dog. I have been arguing that we wait till summer… so we got one in last week. Charlotte got Lucy for her seventh birthday this weekend.
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Couldn’t help digging through the folder of the letters with Ernest Hemingway. One that he wrote from Paris in the 20s and the other from Cuba in the 50s. Both are the original copies.
Couldn’t help digging through the folder of the letters with Ernest Hemingway. One that he wrote from Paris in the 20s and the other from Cuba in the 50s. Both are the original copies.
Couldn’t help digging through the folder of the letters with Ernest Hemingway. One that he wrote from Paris in the 20s and the other from Cuba in the 50s. Both are the original copies.
2 months ago
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Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
Caught the train to New Haven to spend the day digging through their archive of Dead Sea Scroll papers.
2 months ago
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Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
Quick trip to New York for a work project and I got to bring an assistant. We got to stay at the Algonquin Hotel, famous for its twentieth century literary round table (Fitzgerald, Ross, Parker…). We also snuck in dinner and a show at the Met Opera. Still confetti on the streets near Time Square.
2 months ago
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Survival firestarter kit received for Christmas. He’s already got it down. Nice to know we are in good hands.
Survival firestarter kit received for Christmas. He’s already got it down. Nice to know we are in good hands.
2 months ago
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Another Christmas recital in the books. These two worked incredibly hard and gave amazing performances.
Another Christmas recital in the books. These two worked incredibly hard and gave amazing performances.
Another Christmas recital in the books. These two worked incredibly hard and gave amazing performances.
Another Christmas recital in the books. These two worked incredibly hard and gave amazing performances.
Another Christmas recital in the books. These two worked incredibly hard and gave amazing performances.
2 months ago
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Another great day on the White river. If you’re crazy enough to fish in the cold, you’ve got the whole thing to yourself.
Another great day on the White river. If you’re crazy enough to fish in the cold, you’ve got the whole thing to yourself.
Another great day on the White river. If you’re crazy enough to fish in the cold, you’ve got the whole thing to yourself.
Another great day on the White river. If you’re crazy enough to fish in the cold, you’ve got the whole thing to yourself.
Another great day on the White river. If you’re crazy enough to fish in the cold, you’ve got the whole thing to yourself.
Another great day on the White river. If you’re crazy enough to fish in the cold, you’ve got the whole thing to yourself.
3 months ago
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Big thanks to @rwakie for another great day of shooting ducks (teals, mallards, and a Gadwall.) We saw a lot, shot a lot, and managed to hit some. They are beautiful birds.
Big thanks to @rwakie for another great day of shooting ducks (teals, mallards, and a Gadwall.) We saw a lot, shot a lot, and managed to hit some. They are beautiful birds.
3 months ago
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It was cold. It we shot birds. Great fun for a another South Dakota pheasant hunt, this one with my brother and dad. Throw in some nice points and retrieves from Millie and it was a great weekend.
It was cold. It we shot birds. Great fun for a another South Dakota pheasant hunt, this one with my brother and dad. Throw in some nice points and retrieves from Millie and it was a great weekend.
It was cold. It we shot birds. Great fun for a another South Dakota pheasant hunt, this one with my brother and dad. Throw in some nice points and retrieves from Millie and it was a great weekend.
It was cold. It we shot birds. Great fun for a another South Dakota pheasant hunt, this one with my brother and dad. Throw in some nice points and retrieves from Millie and it was a great weekend.
4 months ago
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