Episode 37

Zack Eswine

A Stamina for Being Overlooked

Zack Eswine is the author of the book, The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus. It's on my must-read list for pastors.
Zack Eswine is the author of the book, The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus. It's on my must-read list for pastors.
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Show Notes:37. Zack Eswine — A Stamina for Being Overlooked

I’ve read a lot of books on the vocation of pastor. Zack Eswine’s book, The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus, is one of my favorites.

As a pastor, there are the books we read to keep up with trends, the books we read to refine our understanding of theology and scripture, and the books we read to try and develop new skills. But occasionally, there are the books we discover that offer something far rarer, a deep and warm conversation with a good friend, a friend who isn’t ahead of us but walking with us. Zack’s writing has provided me with that kind of friendship.

His work is humble, transparent, and deeply contemplative. You won’t find strategies or novelty. What you’ll find is a holistic expression of the pastoral ministry: local, content, and awake to the subtleties of grace.

In our conversation, we talk about platform and a great phrase I picked up from Zack’s book, “a stamina for being overlooked.” I think this is one of the most important conversations I’ve had this year on the podcast.

 

  • I have a stained glass artist in my congregation who does incredible work. This past week, as a graduation gift, the congregation gave me this stained glass piece. It is of a bent oak tree like the one we named the church after. I listened as they explained how the church had been for them a bent oak, a tree designed to point towards safety and water. They are common in the Ozarks. Native Americans would tie down young trees and force them to grow in odd shapes as markers. I have always been impressed by their willingness to do that work, knowing that it might be only be later generations that would benefit from them. Still, it’s a weird name for a church. I know. But to hear people personally resonate with what moved me those many years ago was an incredible gift. And this stained glass piece is now one of my favorite possessions.
  • Last 3 years have been working on a doctorate of ministry in writing. Grateful for the time to study, write and for the great friendships.
  • Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
  • Germany was great. And I do love Paris.
I have a stained glass artist in my congregation who does incredible work. This past week, as a graduation gift, the congregation gave me this stained glass piece. It is of a bent oak tree like the one we named the church after. I listened as they explained how the church had been for them a bent oak, a tree designed to point towards safety and water. They are common in the Ozarks. Native Americans would tie down young trees and force them to grow in odd shapes as markers. I have always been impressed by their willingness to do that work, knowing that it might be only be later generations that would benefit from them. Still, it’s a weird name for a church. I know. But to hear people personally resonate with what moved me those many years ago was an incredible gift. And this stained glass piece is now one of my favorite possessions.
I have a stained glass artist in my congregation who does incredible work. This past week, as a graduation gift, the congregation gave me this stained glass piece. It is of a bent oak tree like the one we named the church after. I listened as they explained how the church had been for them a bent oak, a tree designed to point towards safety and water. They are common in the Ozarks. Native Americans would tie down young trees and force them to grow in odd shapes as markers. I have always been impressed by their willingness to do that work, knowing that it might be only be later generations that would benefit from them. Still, it’s a weird name for a church. I know. But to hear people personally resonate with what moved me those many years ago was an incredible gift. And this stained glass piece is now one of my favorite possessions.
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Last 3 years have been working on a doctorate of ministry in writing. Grateful for the time to study, write and for the great friendships.
Last 3 years have been working on a doctorate of ministry in writing. Grateful for the time to study, write and for the great friendships.
Last 3 years have been working on a doctorate of ministry in writing. Grateful for the time to study, write and for the great friendships.
Last 3 years have been working on a doctorate of ministry in writing. Grateful for the time to study, write and for the great friendships.
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Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
Domes, pastries, paintings and our last day in Paris.
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Germany was great. And I do love Paris.
Germany was great. And I do love Paris.
Germany was great. And I do love Paris.
Germany was great. And I do love Paris.
Germany was great. And I do love Paris.
Germany was great. And I do love Paris.
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