Episode 37

Zack Eswine

A Stamina for Being Overlooked

Zack Eswine is the author of the book, The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus. It's on my must-read list for pastors.
Zack Eswine is the author of the book, The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus. It's on my must-read list for pastors.
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Show Notes:37. Zack Eswine — A Stamina for Being Overlooked

I’ve read a lot of books on the vocation of pastor. Zack Eswine’s book, The Imperfect Pastor: Discovering Joy in Our Limitations through a Daily Apprenticeship with Jesus, is one of my favorites.

As a pastor, there are the books we read to keep up with trends, the books we read to refine our understanding of theology and scripture, and the books we read to try and develop new skills. But occasionally, there are the books we discover that offer something far rarer, a deep and warm conversation with a good friend, a friend who isn’t ahead of us but walking with us. Zack’s writing has provided me with that kind of friendship.

His work is humble, transparent, and deeply contemplative. You won’t find strategies or novelty. What you’ll find is a holistic expression of the pastoral ministry: local, content, and awake to the subtleties of grace.

In our conversation, we talk about platform and a great phrase I picked up from Zack’s book, “a stamina for being overlooked.” I think this is one of the most important conversations I’ve had this year on the podcast.

 

  • We couldn’t find her anywhere. Finally found her.… also, Ashley always beats me to posting the good photos.
  • In one month, I submit the draft of my new book, A More Physical Faith, to the publisher, NavPress. My first notes for this book go back to 2024. I share more personally in this book than anything I’ve ever written. Some people write and publish faster, but books usually represent at least 2 to 3 years of work for me. Just wanted to share this milestone. The book won’t be out until next year.
  • Joyeuse Fête des Mères à la meilleure maman qui soit. On t'aime et on a de la chance de t'avoir. Partons en France !
  • Happy early birthday to myself.
  • Hard to beat.
  • There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
  • Back from France.
We couldn’t find her anywhere. Finally found her.… also, Ashley always beats me to posting the good photos.
We couldn’t find her anywhere. Finally found her.… also, Ashley always beats me to posting the good photos.
6 days ago
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In one month, I submit the draft of my new book, A More Physical Faith, to the publisher, NavPress. My first notes for this book go back to 2024. I share more personally in this book than anything I’ve ever written. Some people write and publish faster, but books usually represent at least 2 to 3 years of work for me. Just wanted to share this milestone. The book won’t be out until next year.
In one month, I submit the draft of my new book, A More Physical Faith, to the publisher, NavPress. My first notes for this book go back to 2024. I share more personally in this book than anything I’ve ever written. Some people write and publish faster, but books usually represent at least 2 to 3 years of work for me. Just wanted to share this milestone. The book won’t be out until next year.
2 months ago
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Joyeuse Fête des Mères à la meilleure maman qui soit. On t'aime et on a de la chance de t'avoir. Partons en France !
Joyeuse Fête des Mères à la meilleure maman qui soit. On t'aime et on a de la chance de t'avoir. Partons en France !
4 months ago
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Happy early birthday to myself.
Happy early birthday to myself.
5 months ago
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Hard to beat.
Hard to beat.
5 months ago
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There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
There’s a new tour open at Notre Dame in which you can take the stairs up through the bell tower to the roof. Pretty spectacular.
5 months ago
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Back from France.
Back from France.
Back from France.
5 months ago
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